In this episode, we sit down with Tim Male, Founder and Executive Director of the Environmental Policy Innovation Center (EPIC) and former Associate Director for Conservation at the White House CEQ, to explore what it actually takes to accelerate the pace and scale of environmental progress. In this conversation, we cover: - Buying Outcomes vs. Activities: How pay-for-success contracting and market stacking incentivize real ecological results over bureaucratic checklists. - Why beneficial restoration projects get trapped in traditional permitting pipelines—and how to fix them. - Modernizing Environmental Governance: Leveraging civic tech, open data, and outcome-based policies to get water infrastructure and conservation projects into the ground faster.